Can you defeat the thalmor in skyrim




















I have traveled all over Skyrim to find the quest that gets rid of the White Gold Concordant. In game it's not possible, the Aldmeri Dominion AKA The Thalmor want the Civil War in Skyrim to continue as it weakens the Empire for future plans Skyrim still being a province of the Empire so your best bet to undermine the Thalmor is to put an end to the Civil War by joining either the Stormclocks in Windhelm or the Imperials in Solitude and following the quest line with the side you've chosen.

While it probably doesn't matter either way, on the scale of future plot speculation , an Imperial victory in the War would mean Skyrim is back under their control but a Stormclock Victory would mean a second enemy to the Thalmor which means a different set of tactics being used against them. Even if in game it was possible for you to blow up the embassy it may just weaken their presence in Skyrim. There is no quest to get rid of the White-Gold Concordat, I believe.

See the list of all Skyrim quests here. Closest thing, IMO, is to win the civil war in favor of the Stormcloaks. Though, gameplay-wise, the random encounters with the Thalmor will still occur. And lore-wise, the White-Gold Concordat would still be in effect in the rest of the Empire.

Sign up to join this community. The best answers are voted up and rise to the top. Stack Overflow for Teams — Collaborate and share knowledge with a private group. Create a free Team What is Teams? Learn more. How can I get rid if the peace treaty that was signed by the Empire Ask Question. Asked 7 years, 3 months ago. Active 7 years, 3 months ago. Ondolemar may be on the opposing side, but the only thing making him "bad" is his indoctrination, otherwise he has nothing against the common people living in the Empire.

It is however undeniable that the Thalmor organization as a whole has committed atrocities , as Fasendil and Malborn [and even the "Rising Threat" books] hint at. Tullius' Legion may be the Empire's best chance right now, but it's not their "only" chance. Even if they "win" the Civil War, they'd lose to the Empire anyway. Personally speaking, I think in the next game Cyrodiil will be invaded by and either partially or completely conquered by the Thalmor, meaning that the Empire as we know it will be effectively dead and like Morrowind, High Rock's kingdoms would then be de-facto independent.

The Skyrim Civil War would then be solved in a faction-neutral way, because no matter which side the Dragonborn picks, the outcome leads into E. VI 's story. This would probably lead to an alliance a new Daggerfall Covenant? Technically, the Thalmor Dossier on Ulfric Stormcloak states that the Dominion would prefer if neither side in the Skyrim Civil War even so much as gains ground. It is stated that the Dominion doesn't want either the Legion or the Stormcloaks to claim a quick, decisive victory; which very nearly happened for the former at the very beginning of TES5's events only to be unluckily prevented by none other than Alduin.

Also, due to potential troubles in Valenwood beyond the purges the Thalmor have been conducting , an invasion of Cyrodiil so shortly after the Skyrim Civil War is extremely unlikely to happen. The Dominion will need to re-secure Valenwood's allegiance first. Since we've seen evidence of the next game's setting, via the climate in last year's teaser trailer and photos taken in the most recent "25th Anniversary" trailer, all bets are against the possibility of it being set in Valenwood so I doubt we'll be interacting with the Thalmor too much if at all.

Whatever happens, the Last Dragonborn is not likely to indirectly inspire any element of the backstory. Though there has been one arguable exception like the Champion of Cyrodiil becoming the new Sheogorath, he [like all other playable Heroes], pretty much has disappeared from worldly events.

So far in the main series, none of the [numbered] games have been true sequels to previous iterations in that regard. I think the emerging consensus is that it's definitely going to be set in Hammerfell and possibly High Rock too. I for one have been thoroughly convinced by the evidence, so we're in agreement. At best we might be able to visit Valenwood, but that's far from certain. So I may either agree or disagree with your statement depending upon how strongly you feel about this.

Even though the protagonists usually fall into the background after the events of their respective games, their actions have huge ramifications for the next game to a greater or lesser extent; the actions of the protagonist of T.

II, beyond "defeating" that game's villains as expected of the hero, ended up completely changing the political landscape of Iliac Bay. Since the Civil War was pretty much the quest-line of Skyrim other than the main quest-line of defeating Alduin, I think it's safe to assume that the Dragonborn is going to leave her or his mark on the outcome of the Civil War and the future of Skyrim. However, I think this involves unifying both sides directly or indirectly rather than a radical outcome that clearly favors the Imperials or favors the Stormcloaks.

Honestly, if both Tullius and Ulfric end up dead and the Dragonborn brings Skyrim under the control of either faction, how would one be able to tell one side apart from the other at that point, at least within Skyrim? Either way the Dragonborn becomes the leader or gets to choose the next leader. That being said, I agree that the protagonist of E. VI is unlikely to meet the Dragonborn or that the Dragonborn may already be a historical figure or have gone missing by the time the next game takes place.

Edit: Now that I'm thinking about it, the Dark Brotherhood quest-line heavily implies that one way or another there is going to be a new Emperor with a shift in policy. So if Cyrodiil manages to survive intact for the next game and perhaps even if it doesn't , maybe the new Emperor is going to grant Skyrim independence as a way to ensure Skyrim's cooperation in the next Great War.

I think this would especially make sense if Tullius or Ulfric or both have already been defeated prior to the Emperor's announcement, meaning that there aren't any more loose strings. The Dominion can only enter Skyrim by going through enemies. After the Markarth Incident, however, Ulfric suddenly found himself a war hero surrounded by men who would kill and die for him.

Men who could even take Skyrim for him. The most probable long term effect of the Stormcloaks winning the civil war is that the Aldmeri Dominion succeeds in splintering the Imperial forces, causing them to be vastly underpowered and after they incite another great war, they control all Imperial provinces. If the Dragonborn chooses to kill Tullius himself, he cannot be killed. The way to bypass this bug is to use healing hands on Tullius which will kill him.

These are the conditions given in the mod description, in case the conditions are the same: — You are either neutral or sided with the Legion. If you lose your thane status in your hold due to the jarl that granted it being removed by the Civil War or Season Unending , then your housecarl will still call you thane but you will be unable to use your status to avoid being arrested by the guards until it is reinstated.

For Riften you must go to the Riften Fishery and look for a lady that has a Skooma addiction. You then give her some coin and ask her where she gets her skooma. Then, you must buy a house in Riften and you will be presented with the your title as thane. Even if you kill Vald, you will still have the dialog option to erase his debt with Maven.

The quest and item will stay active.



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